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Interview · 6 Aug 2026

BBC Radio 4 Today interview with Nick Robinson: Restore Britain, Islam and Reform UK

Rupert Lowe, MP for Great Yarmouth, Leader of Restore Britain

Video: YouTube: BBC Politics (official channel). Retrieved 7 Oct 2026.

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Nick Robinson
Let's start with that title restore Britain. What does it mean?

It means restoring Britain to something more akin to that which it used to be which was a very prosperous country with very low national debt. Everyone understood who we were, what we were and how our society and our our sort of country worked. And I think that has changed dramatically over the last well really since Tony Blair. And you know I I think the British people can see and feel their country slipping away from them. And we need to start to I think adopt a more sensible logical route to rebuilding our national wealth and to rebuilding our society.

AnsweredAsked what 'Restore Britain' means. Says restoring a prosperous, low-debt country and a settled society.Our model rated thisNot yet reviewed by a person
Nick Robinson
He said that in a recent tweet I'm not going to sit back and watch Britain become an Islamic country. What is the evidence that in your words we are quotes hurtling towards being an Islamic country?

Well let me ask you Nick have you read our 219 page rape gang inquiry report which we which we did. I don't think the BBC has covered it at all.

AnsweredOn review, rated Answered (was Dodged: Asked for evidence that Britain is heading towards being an Islamic country. Asks whether the interviewer has read his rape gang report and says the BBC has not covered it.)Our model rated thisCorrected by a person, 8 Oct 2026
Nick Robinson
Well it's covered the rape gangs but let me ask you to answer the question.

Hang on have you have you read that report?

Partly answeredOn review, rated Partly answered (was Dodged: Asked again to answer. Asks again whether the interviewer has read the report.)Our model rated thisCorrected by a person, 8 Oct 2026
Nick Robinson
I haven't read the whole report no but what's the evidence for your claim?

that that is a very important part of what we're talking about today.

What what we're seeing is the gradual Islamification of Britain.

AnsweredOn review, rated Answered (was Partly answered: Asked for the evidence. Says the report matters and restates the claim of gradual Islamification, without giving evidence.)Our model rated thisCorrected by a person, 8 Oct 2026
Nick Robinson
What's the evidence for that?

Or the silent Jihad if you like. And people like the BBC our national monopoly which as you know I I I I would defund responsibly very quickly should I acquire power. The point is you have been complicit in watching this gradual spread of uh Islam the Islamic Islamicization of of of Britain, which basically is changing the nature of everything with with them allowed to pursue a parallel system of Sharia courts.

AnsweredOn review, rated Answered (was Partly answered: Asked again for the evidence. Mentions parallel Sharia courts, and mostly criticises the BBC.)Our model rated thisCorrected by a person, 8 Oct 2026
Nick Robinson
What I asked you for was the evidence the evidence that we're hurtling towards being an Islamic country.

What's for the fact that we're supposed to inform, educate, and entertain with complete impartiality. We are not doing that.

DodgedAsked again for the evidence. Replies about BBC impartiality.Our model rated thisNot yet reviewed by a person
Nick Robinson
Well, look, just briefly, Mr. Loc, cuz you've raised that a couple of times, but I I wanted to have an interesting exchange of views.

You asked me the question now.

Ceremonial, not rated: A lead-in: the interviewer says he will briefly reply about BBC coverage; asks for nothing.

Nick Robinson
Yeah. No, no, I'll briefly give you an answer, which is we covered rape gangs in detail. We covered the National Enquirer. You're You're talking about us covering your individual report. Let me ask you again, it does I'm asking you about your words. So, forgive me, I'm not trying to be clever. I'm just trying to ask you to explain your words.

clever on this program. I I I listen to you sometimes. I've given up listening that much, but

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Nick Robinson
What Let me try one more time. One more time. What is the evidence that Britain, in your words, is hurtling towards becoming an Islamic country?

It's quite plain for everybody to see when you see very large parts of the country who are running a parallel system. And you are seeing as a result of that, as I said to you just now, the manifestation of Pakistani Muslim rape gangs. Most of these people are Pakistani Muslims. Most of them from one part of Pakistan, Mirpur. And if you had the intellectual appetite to actually read the report, I don't think you'd even need to ask me this question.

AnsweredOn review, rated Answered (was Partly answered: Asked once more for the evidence. Points to parallel systems in parts of the country and to rape gangs, without evidence of a national trend.)Our model rated thisCorrected by a person, 8 Oct 2026
Nick Robinson
Well, the reason I asked you the question is this, because you quote and have often quoted what you say is a prediction that white Britons will be a minority in 2063. Are you aware that by the definitions used in that particular report, King Charles is not a white Britain? Do you think he is a white Britain?

Well, many people have different interpretations of that, Nick. I mean, we can split hairs, but I think

Partly answeredAsked whether King Charles counts as white British under the forecast's definition. Says people interpret it differently and calls it splitting hairs, without saying yes or no.Our model rated thisNot yet reviewed by a person
Nick Robinson
not splitting hairs. Do you think the monarch of this country is a white Britain?

And I think most British people, if you speak to them, would agree. And that is why

Partly answeredAsked again whether the monarch is white British. Says most British people would agree, without saying with what, and is cut off.Our model rated thisNot yet reviewed by a person
Nick Robinson
Is King Charles a white Britain?

is growing very fast, and your listen your listeners are dropping equally fast because you don't reflect actually what's happening

DodgedAsked again about King Charles. Replies about BBC audience figures.Our model rated thisNot yet reviewed by a person
Nick Robinson
Why don't you answer the question now we've got you on?

You try and whitewash all of the things that are happening.

Declined openlyOn review, rated Declined openly (was Dodged: Asked why he will not answer. Says the BBC covers things up.)Our model rated thisCorrected by a person, 8 Oct 2026
Nick Robinson
Is King Charles a white Britain? Rupert Lowe.

pedal DEI, you pedal all of the global line agenda.

DodgedAsked again about King Charles. Replies about DEI and the BBC's agenda.Our model rated thisNot yet reviewed by a person

Which British people have got bored of.

Nick Robinson
Right. So, They're bored of people ignoring the questions, Mr. The reason I ask you, and it's a serious question,

It is It is a It is a fact that by 2063, white British people will be a minority on current trends. I don't think that I don't think anyone disputes that.

AnsweredOn review, rated Answered (was Partly answered: Told why the question is being asked. Restates the 2063 forecast as fact, not the point about King Charles.)Our model rated thisCorrected by a person, 8 Oct 2026
Nick Robinson
What I was putting to you is that the basis of that forecast, which is widely disputed and based on a whole series of assumptions that none of us know whether they'll be true or not, is that you're only called a white Britain if both of your parents were born in this country. So, because Prince Philip was born in Greece, King Charles is not, under your definition, treated as a white Britain. Now, let me go on and ask you a different question. In the recent election, the by-election, for a mayor of London, Sadiq Khan won by a

ostensibly the economic paper we've just put out and about the issue with Nigel Farage, and you've

Ceremonial, not rated: The interviewer's question is cut off before it is put, so the reply cannot be rated.

Nick Robinson
No, I'm going to come to Nigel Farage.

You've managed to turn it into a discussion about Britain's British people becoming minority white British people by 2063. So, look,

Ceremonial, not rated: A remark that he will come to Farage later; asks for nothing.

Nick Robinson
It's very important move on to another question. I thought it was a courtesy to you cuz it's something you care passionately about. Here we are.

Please move on. Yeah, let's let's let's get on to something more more more more constructive.

Ceremonial, not rated: A remark that he is moving on; the reply agrees ('Please move on').

Nick Robinson
Well, you referred in a recent tweet to British areas in Manchester and you compared them with more Muslim areas. Are you saying that Muslims in Manchester are not British?

I don't think a lot of the Muslims in Manchester are integrating into British culture.

AnsweredOn review, rated Answered (was Partly answered: Asked whether he is saying Muslims in Manchester are not British. Says many are not integrating, without saying yes or no.)Our model rated thisCorrected by a person, 8 Oct 2026
Nick Robinson
British?

And the And the If you go to Karmarama, where I was the other day while I was campaigning with Marlon West, who did extremely well in in the mayoral election there, uh you see entire communities who basically are pursuing their own culture, their own religion, and their own agenda.

Partly answeredPressed on 'British?'. Describes communities following their own culture and religion, without saying yes or no.Our model rated thisNot yet reviewed by a person
Nick Robinson
Are they British?

Now, successful immigration involves accepting that the faith and the structures that exist within the countries you go and settle in. And if you go and live in Saudi Arabia, you go and live in Dubai, you have to accept the prevailing culture there. Otherwise, you're not welcome.

Partly answeredOn review, rated Partly answered (was Dodged: Pressed again on whether they are British. Moves to what successful immigration needs and to rules in Saudi Arabia and Dubai.)Our model rated thisCorrected by a person, 8 Oct 2026

And I I I I don't think anyone would disagree that large parts of Britain are [clears throat] becoming unrecognizable when when it comes to the way they used to be even 30, 40, or 50 years ago.

Nick Robinson
Okay. Well, all I've done, Mr. Lowe, is ask you about things you've said and asked you to explain, but you want to talk about Nigel Farage. So, let's move on to your own

Well, what you wanted me to come on for, Nick, ostensibly. But, you know, that's what you asked That's what Kirsty asked me to come on to speak about.

Ceremonial, not rated: A remark that he is moving on to Farage; the reply is about why he was invited.

Nick Robinson
Let's talk about that then. In the past, you've accused Nigel Farage of being, and I quote, "a viper who is leading a cult, a narcissist who thinks he's the Messiah." And you've said that he's totally unfit to lead the country. Are you surprised that he didn't take your offer of cooperation entirely seriously?

Well, look, I I I I I I

I mean, uh Nigel Ziyad Yusuf and Leanne uh for some extraordinary reason, they made false witness statements to the police, tried to have me imprisoned for nothing, uh and booted me out of the party for equally nothing. I thought I was actually doing quite a good job promoting reform, asking lots of questions in Parliament. I think I'm one of the most active MPs in Parliament since I've been elected. And I'm now doing the same on the Public Accounts Committee, which holds the civil service, the extremely deficient uh overstaffed, overpaid civil service to account.

people can watch that on Hansard. It's all

AnsweredOn review, rated Answered (was Dodged: Asked whether he is surprised Farage did not take his offer seriously, given what he has called him. Describes his expulsion from Reform and his own work in Parliament.)Our model rated thisCorrected by a person, 8 Oct 2026
Nick Robinson
Are you serious about cooperation was the question.

So, so look, Nigel Nigel decided with his acolytes that I was not part of his party, so he kicked me out. And once I cleared my name, which was obviously going to happen because I I am what I appear to be, uh an honest, tax-paying uh person who owns businesses, and I think has played my part in driving the economy, having worked in the city for 20 years, and now running a number of private businesses, which which I control. I I think I played a big part in what reform did in Parliament until they kicked me out for some extraordinary reason. You have to ask them about that.

Partly answeredOn review, rated Partly answered (was Dodged: Asked whether he is serious about cooperation. Describes being expelled, clearing his name and his business career.)Our model rated thisCorrected by a person, 8 Oct 2026
Nick Robinson
just just briefly, if you will, cuz we're short of time, will you cooperate with it? Will you cooperate with

was asked when I was asked to be on the Public Accounts Committee, the reason I set up Restore as a movement to start with was to unite. And I don't even call it right-wing thought. I call it common sense thought. What's happened is your monopoly, the national monopoly, the BBC, which has become a lie in my view, has gone so far left that anyone who speaks common sense appears to be far right in your terms. But I'm not far right.

I am a normal punter, okay? And I want my country back. I don't want all of the piffle and the rubbish that you lot pedal. I want a country that works, is at peace with itself, and is founded upon the Christian principles which have served us extremely well for many thousands of years.

AnsweredOn review, rated Answered (was Partly answered: Asked whether he will cooperate. Says Restore was set up to unite common-sense thought, then turns to the BBC, without saying yes or no.)Our model rated thisCorrected by a person, 8 Oct 2026
Nick Robinson
You're a man, aren't you, in reality, Mr. Mr. Leyland? You're a man with money and a grudge and a social media account who airs his prejudices on X and gets hearing cuz you've got the back of Elon Musk.

I made an effort on Friday to reach out to Nigel Farage genuinely, honestly, and in good faith to try and find a way despite the fact that I think they treated me despicably badly and arguably uh illegally. But I have tried to put that behind us in order to unite common sense thought. Because there are many things we agree on. There are equally many things we don't agree on.

AnsweredOn review, rated Answered (was Partly answered: Told he is a man with money, a grudge and a social media platform. Answers the grudge point by describing his offer to Farage, not the rest.)Our model rated thisCorrected by a person, 8 Oct 2026

So I put the red lines in there and I made a genuine effort. Now so far, I had one message from Nigel on uh Sunday morning at 10:30 saying uh will call later. Now in his press conference, he said he was awaiting for a call from me. Well, I think most people

Nick Robinson
but slowly. We haven't got time for every detail of your relationship with Nigel Farage.

I assumed he was canvassing with Camp Binface in in Clacton

Ceremonial, not rated: A request to be brief for time; asks for nothing.

in the by-election which he called