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Interview · 30 Sep 2026

ITV News interview with Robert Peston: Europe, Manchester City and RAF Fairford

Andy Burnham, Prime Minister

Video: YouTube: ITV News (official channel). Retrieved 7 Oct 2026.

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The words of Andy Burnham. Transcript from the video's captions, fetched on 2026-10-07; not an official record. Captions do not say who is speaking: Polifiles assigned each turn by reading the captions, without checking the audio. ITV News' upload of the interview recorded at the Labour conference in Liverpool the day after his speech (10 minutes); a short opening teaser that repeats later questions and answers (Europe, Manchester City) is left out, and so are the closing thanks. The presenter is named in the video title ("Peston grills Andy Burnham"); the captions do not name him. Turns assigned by meaning rather than the '>>' marks: the captions often run a question straight into the answer, and a few overlapping fragments ("By the way, many would agree with you", "city of Manchester?", a "Yeah" inside the Everton question) are given to Robert Peston. His last line is captioned "I hope I didn't improve", probably "I hope I did him proud". Trimmed: starts at "Prime Minister, very good to see you."; ends at "I hope I didn't improve.". Questions are shown in grey boxes. Tap a marked sentence to see the label and its sources. Other speakers' full contributions are in the video.

Robert Peston
Prime Minister, very good to see you. So the EU options are customs union, customs union, single market or full membership. How will you know which is the right option?

Well, there are more as well. Of course,

Ceremonial, not rated: Interrupted after two short sentences ('Well, there are more as well. Of course,') by the follow-up 'what are the other ones?'; the same question, how he will know the right option, is asked again at x04.

Robert Peston
what are the other ones?

Canada option uh that recently was uh discussed. There's staying as we are.

AnsweredAsked what the other options are. Names a Canada option and staying as we are.Our model rated thisNot yet reviewed by a person
Robert Peston
Come on, hang on, pull the other one. There's no way you're going to go for staying as we are.

British public opinion is I think it's changed since the referendum and therefore it's right uh to start the process of saying what is the right long-term relationship for Britain with our nearest neighbor our largest market. It's right to ask the question. If I'm going to lead Britain to a place where we're in a stronger position, then you have to ask.

Partly answeredTold he will not really choose to stay as we are. Says public opinion has changed and it is right to ask the question, without saying whether the status quo is a real option.Our model rated thisNot yet reviewed by a person
Robert Peston
But how will you know what the right answer is then? I mean, you know, you've been talking about you'll assess the center of gravity, but how will you know

by that? By uh where people are and making sure we know uh what people would want us to do.

Partly answeredAsked how he will know the right answer. Says by where people are and what they would want, without saying how that will be measured.Our model rated thisNot yet reviewed by a person
Robert Peston
What are you going to do? You going to poll them or something? I'm just intrigued to know how you're going to come to this.

We can't go through though. The first thing is a decade like the one we've just had. I'm very conscious. I'm the seventh prime minister in that decade. We've had uh too much conflict, too much division, too much drift.

And we need to draw a line and start to say right where is this country going in the long term. That is my job as prime minister to face up to that question and then to give the country the realistic options as to what that might involve. Now I was talking about many other things yesterday, social care, how we reform energy and water, but huge stuff to I can't avoid the Europe question if I'm to put out a credible 10-year plan for Britain and that's why I've started this process.

Partly answeredAsked whether he will poll people and how he will decide. Talks about the last decade and says his job is to give the country realistic options; does not say how the choice will be made or whether polling is involved.Our model rated thisNot yet reviewed by a person
Robert Peston
And just sorry to be clear, do you not recognize that having in a sense opened this box, your party would go nuts if you came down in favor of the status quo?

Well, we will see, won't we, um, what happens because I don't know what, uh, Europe will say about the different options. We've got to look at where we are, where they are, uh, and see what is a realistic and viable approach in all of the areas that we mentioned and then open up a conversation about it. What I said yesterday is I want more honesty in politics and politicians not cowering away from issues perceived to be difficult, Europe or social care. That's what we get from Westminster too much. I said in my speech, I'm coming back to Westminster to change it, to change the culture because Britain will not get back on the right path until we do that.

And in this is part of the problem.

Partly answeredAsked whether his party would object if he chose the status quo. Says it depends on what Europe says about the options and turns to honesty in politics; does not address his party's reaction.Our model rated thisNot yet reviewed by a person
Robert Peston
By the way, many would agree with you. Now, in your spirit of honesty, though, you did make it clear that actually it could be in your next manifesto a commitment to rejoin the European Union. you like me lived through that referendum. That was really angry and divisive. H how would you manage an election on that basis in a way that doesn't divide us in the way that you don't want to see?

Well, everything you've just said would have to be taken into account if that was um the direction uh that it was leading. And you have to be really careful about that because referendums do damage in terms of they divide households and communities. So we have to proceed with with great care and that would be the first thing I'm saying but we're nowhere near that point. We are nowhere near that point. This is just about saying what are the broad options that we have got.

You have the Lib Dems debating this at their conference. You have George Osborne coming out putting his idea on the table. You have Mark Carney going to Europe and saying is there a relationship that we can have? And also you have people who will say no stay where we are. That's what we voted for.

You have to judge all of those things alongside each other. I

Partly answeredAsked how he would fight an election on rejoining without dividing the country. Accepts referendums divide and says he would proceed with care, but says 'we're nowhere near that point' and gives no plan.Our model rated thisNot yet reviewed by a person
Robert Peston
I want to move on in a minute, but you accept the argument, don't you, that in a multipolar world dominated by China and America, our voice is loud louder the closer we get to the EU and indeed our economy will be stronger, growth will be stronger if we can bring down those barriers to trade. Those are two arguments you totally accept, don't you?

Those those are my you know my instincts. Uh I think we have seen growth harmed by Brexit and it's hard to see how we can get back to the higher levels of growth we once had by staying too distant from our largest uh market. I look at the world as it is uh with all of the um the threats that we see around the world. I think it is uh better to be closer. Now that's my personal view.

It doesn't mean I'm leaping towards any of those options because all of them uh will bring pros and cons. But what I do think it's right to do is open up the discussion because a decade on we're not where we need to be. The country isn't functioning as it should. Uh there's been too much drift, too much turbulence in politics. Hence, the next decade for Britain has to be better than the last.

And it has to be better in terms of growth and also immigration control because that has been weakened by Brexit. And it's time to be honest about things, have the discussion, and see where we get to. But at this stage, there's no assumptions about where this will lead.

AnsweredAsked whether he accepts that closer ties would give Britain a louder voice and stronger growth. Says those are his instincts, that Brexit harmed growth and that it is better to be closer.Our model rated thisNot yet reviewed by a person
Robert Peston
You are immensely proud of your time as mayor of Manchester in that period. Great investment from Abu Dhabi in Man City. Also though in the wider community, you must be sad and anxious to see the Premier League say that there's almost a billion pounds of sham money in Man City from Abu Dhabi. That that must embarrass you, upset you.

Well, it's important for me to recognize the huge uh investment that has gone in not just to Manchester city but everywhere around the Etihad, the Etihad itself.

Partly answeredAsked whether the Premier League's charges against Manchester City embarrass him. Points to the club owners' investment in east Manchester, without addressing the charges before the follow-up.Our model rated thisNot yet reviewed by a person
Robert Peston
But doesn't it feel tainted by this city of Manchester?

The thing I would say about the precise dispute between the Premier League and Manchester City Football Club is that needs to run its course. And the reason I say that is because I was in a dispute with the Premier League on behalf of this football club where we are

Declined openlyAsked whether the investment feels tainted. Says the dispute between the Premier League and Manchester City needs to run its course.Our model rated thisNot yet reviewed by a person
Robert Peston
but on a scale that's trivial. I mean it's a billion quid at Man City Prime Minister.

It wasn't trivial to me. I can assure you.

AnsweredTold the Everton case was trivial by comparison. Says it was not trivial to him.Our model rated thisNot yet reviewed by a person
Robert Peston
No, no, no. But I'm but look, most people most people in the country Yeah. But most people have enormous sympathy with Everton. They actually feel Premier League.

They didn't. They didn't at the time when I took up the fight for Everton. And what I would say is these are really complex uh rules and situations.

AnsweredTold most people sympathised with Everton. Says they did not at the time and the rules are complex.Our model rated thisNot yet reviewed by a person
Robert Peston
Do you really believe Do you really believe that Man City is innocent in your heart?

I I'm I'm not in a position to proclaim guilt or innocence, but what I do know is I was really uh dissatisfied with the nature of the process that had been conducted when Everton uh was finding itself part of an independent commission. So I'm just going to speak honestly. If I was a supporter of another club, I don't I wouldn't want to see the prime minister coming in and proclaiming guilt uh before the issues had fully run their course in the courts and everywhere else.

Declined openlyAsked whether he believes Manchester City is innocent. Says he is not in a position to proclaim guilt or innocence and a Prime Minister should not before the process ends.Our model rated thisNot yet reviewed by a person
Robert Peston
We're almost out of time. I've got another just a couple of very quick ones. There have been reports that Iran are involved in these extraordinary events at the base at Fairford. What can you tell me about that?

I can uh say that there are strong indications that Iran played a part in what happened over the weekend at Ara Fairford. Uh so we can confirm our belief um that they um that they did play a part. Uh but it remains a live police investigation uh in terms of counterterrorism at police. So I don't feel able to say any more at this point in time other than to add that it has taken up quite a bit of my time here in Liverpool this week. I did chair a meeting of Cobra on Monday uh so that we were across all of the details with cabinet colleagues.

Uh I want to pay tribute uh to Glstership police and also counterterrorism police who've done an outstanding job. They are across everything and have done everything right. They've got my full confidence in what they are what they are doing and we'll say more when we come.

AnsweredAsked what he can say about reports of Iranian involvement at RAF Fairford. Confirms the government's belief that Iran played a part and says the police investigation limits what he can add.Our model rated thisNot yet reviewed by a person
Robert Peston
Well, I was my mom died earlier this year. I was very moved by what you had to say about your dad. I just wanted to ask you because you know this is a close thing for me. Have you got time in this extraordinary job, this incredibly busy job to grieve?

Honestly, uh no, not enough. Uh when I walked up Downing Street starting my journey as prime minister, I was clear that my dad was ending his and the two things coming together in the way that they have has been hard. I I wouldn't uh say it hasn't been and it does hit me in waves a little in terms of the quiet moments. Um but then what do you do? You've got to to channel it in some way.

And I was proud to channel what he represented in my conference speech uh yesterday. He wasn't a politician. He was political because he was a son of this city and he had very strong principles and he would do nudge me and he would guide me and he did and you know very much yesterday I wanted to to speak uh to all of that and the way in which he shaped me on my journey to that uh to that stage and the Britishness that he represented you know always about unions, people working together um very proud of uh of what this uh this city represented and you know I spoke to all of those uh values in my in my speech yesterday. I hope I did. I hope I didn't improve.

AnsweredAsked whether he has had time to grieve for his father. Says honestly not enough, and describes channelling it into his speech.Our model rated thisNot yet reviewed by a person